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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: How to Write About Science &#171; Oceanographer&#8217;s Choice</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8201</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Write About Science &#171; Oceanographer&#8217;s Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 04:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I saw several things which inspired me to write this. The first was this helpful guide on how to write about poor people. Thanks, alybatt. The second is this news story from FOX (where else?), which explains how the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8137</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;How to write about the poor&#039; misses out the important lessons contained in the opening of William Easterly&#039;s &#039;The White Man&#039;s Burden.&#039;  They are: do not get out of the vehicle to speak to them in person; hear about them as individuals by watching them on BBC News instead; dedicate your book to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;How to write about the poor&#8217; misses out the important lessons contained in the opening of William Easterly&#8217;s &#8216;The White Man&#8217;s Burden.&#8217;  They are: do not get out of the vehicle to speak to them in person; hear about them as individuals by watching them on BBC News instead; dedicate your book to them.</p>
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		<title>By: From Poverty to Power by Duncan Green &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aid Satire; Berlusconi&#8217;s horrible year; migration in the recession; Bono does climate change (but the US media doesn&#8217;t): links I liked</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8123</link>
		<dc:creator>From Poverty to Power by Duncan Green &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Aid Satire; Berlusconi&#8217;s horrible year; migration in the recession; Bono does climate change (but the US media doesn&#8217;t): links I liked</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 09:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bill Easterly goes for the bludgeon rather than the rapier with ‘How to Write About Poor People’ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TA</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8119</link>
		<dc:creator>TA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 06:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beyond metrics and praise vs. &#039;opprobium&#039; - is that really a word; one thing stands out in the conversation between  the William and Homira and that&#039;s the &#039;Bank&#039; doesn&#039;t speak our language. I read his post and understood the irony of it right away, I read Homira&#039;s post and she&#039;s talking about Bhutan and Maslow. Without a degree in development economics I can readily grasp what William&#039;s post was about, with Homira&#039;s, I&#039;m running to my developments texts. And I&#039;m not bank bashing here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beyond metrics and praise vs. &#8216;opprobium&#8217; &#8211; is that really a word; one thing stands out in the conversation between  the William and Homira and that&#8217;s the &#8216;Bank&#8217; doesn&#8217;t speak our language. I read his post and understood the irony of it right away, I read Homira&#8217;s post and she&#8217;s talking about Bhutan and Maslow. Without a degree in development economics I can readily grasp what William&#8217;s post was about, with Homira&#8217;s, I&#8217;m running to my developments texts. And I&#8217;m not bank bashing here!</p>
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		<title>By: Around the blogs 5 Jan &#171; catallaxy files</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8089</link>
		<dc:creator>Around the blogs 5 Jan &#171; catallaxy files</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And Bill Easterly&#8217;s advice &#8220;How to write about poor people&#8220;. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ms Mona</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8085</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Mona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My work doesn&#039;t deal with foreign aid issues and I&#039;ve no background in economic studies, but I believe that Homira&#039;s quote of Lao Tzu hits the nail on the head!
My work centers on McDowell County, WV and it&#039;s tough.   Corruption is everywhere... ...most aid workers feel that their &quot;cause&quot; is the most important cause of the day...money pours in, money pours out, but, for the most part, the living conditions aren&#039;t improving....and the pictures!  did I mention the pictures??  (yes, oddly enough, I&#039;m still referring to domestic aid issues)
So here&#039;s what I know of writing about the poor (and having actually been poor for a portion of my life, I should have at least a bit of insight):   eh, not so much.
I&#039;ve been distanced enough from the poverty to see that it&#039;s wrong, yet close enough to it to want to make a difference.  But, trust me on this, when you&#039;re poor and your neighbors are poor and their neighbors are poor and basically the entire village, i mean, community is poor, you really don&#039;t grasp that you&#039;re poor.   Well, until someone outside the village, i mean, Com-mun-i-ty, tells you how poor you are!   So, all of these articles on how to help the poor, what the poor need, what the poor want, why don&#039;t the poor want more, and, of course, where do all these poor people come from in the first place....well, they&#039;re important!  Let&#039;s face it, we need rich, educated people to read them and gasp with shock and write checks to help the poor!  And, it works!  Okay, it doesn&#039;t really work.  But it sounds good and at least some of that money is making a difference...somewhere...
I really appreciate what Stephane wrote.   It&#039;s just seems surreal sometimes to step back and forth between the two worlds.   Honestly, to whip out my crackberry in a backwoods hollow trying  to grab enough signal to check e-mail can be mind-boggling!
....so much for #10!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My work doesn&#8217;t deal with foreign aid issues and I&#8217;ve no background in economic studies, but I believe that Homira&#8217;s quote of Lao Tzu hits the nail on the head! </p>
<p>My work centers on McDowell County, WV and it&#8217;s tough.   Corruption is everywhere&#8230; &#8230;most aid workers feel that their &#8220;cause&#8221; is the most important cause of the day&#8230;money pours in, money pours out, but, for the most part, the living conditions aren&#8217;t improving&#8230;.and the pictures!  did I mention the pictures??  (yes, oddly enough, I&#8217;m still referring to domestic aid issues)</p>
<p>So here&#8217;s what I know of writing about the poor (and having actually been poor for a portion of my life, I should have at least a bit of insight):   eh, not so much.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been distanced enough from the poverty to see that it&#8217;s wrong, yet close enough to it to want to make a difference.  But, trust me on this, when you&#8217;re poor and your neighbors are poor and their neighbors are poor and basically the entire village, i mean, community is poor, you really don&#8217;t grasp that you&#8217;re poor.   Well, until someone outside the village, i mean, Com-mun-i-ty, tells you how poor you are!   So, all of these articles on how to help the poor, what the poor need, what the poor want, why don&#8217;t the poor want more, and, of course, where do all these poor people come from in the first place&#8230;.well, they&#8217;re important!  Let&#8217;s face it, we need rich, educated people to read them and gasp with shock and write checks to help the poor!  And, it works!  Okay, it doesn&#8217;t really work.  But it sounds good and at least some of that money is making a difference&#8230;somewhere&#8230;</p>
<p>I really appreciate what Stephane wrote.   It&#8217;s just seems surreal sometimes to step back and forth between the two worlds.   Honestly, to whip out my crackberry in a backwoods hollow trying  to grab enough signal to check e-mail can be mind-boggling!  </p>
<p>&#8230;.so much for #10!</p>
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		<title>By: margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 12:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forgot to mention that in the photos, it is preferable if the children are not wearing clothes!</description>
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		<title>By: Homira</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/how-to-write-about-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-8031</link>
		<dc:creator>Homira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
Thanks for the quick response, and apologies if I was too abrupt.  But just the statistic of 1.25€/day is a metric.  Your point on attitudes of those who write about the poor is spot-on, but maybe I&#039;m reading different stuff.  As a knowledge and learning manager, I do agree whole-heartedly that Bank reports are generally poorly written (ouch!), and I challenge our institutional culture constantly.  The fact that I still work at the Bank in spite of being a outspoken gadfly is testimony to the Bank&#039;s tolerance. My biggest peeve is how boring Bankese writing and oversanitization makes really compelling work/findings.
Regarding praise vs. opprobrium, yes, there is more to criticize than compliment, but that&#039;s part of our world in general - not just the Bank.  I love what Stephane Ferey wrote about living with the poor, which reminds me of one of my favorite Lao Tzu quotes:
“Go to the people. Live with them. Learn from them. Love them. Start with what they know. Build with what they have. But with the best leaders, when the work is done, the task accomplished, the people will say &quot;We have done this ourselves&quot;.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill, </p>
<p>Thanks for the quick response, and apologies if I was too abrupt.  But just the statistic of 1.25€/day is a metric.  Your point on attitudes of those who write about the poor is spot-on, but maybe I&#8217;m reading different stuff.  As a knowledge and learning manager, I do agree whole-heartedly that Bank reports are generally poorly written (ouch!), and I challenge our institutional culture constantly.  The fact that I still work at the Bank in spite of being a outspoken gadfly is testimony to the Bank&#8217;s tolerance. My biggest peeve is how boring Bankese writing and oversanitization makes really compelling work/findings.  </p>
<p>Regarding praise vs. opprobrium, yes, there is more to criticize than compliment, but that&#8217;s part of our world in general &#8211; not just the Bank.  I love what Stephane Ferey wrote about living with the poor, which reminds me of one of my favorite Lao Tzu quotes: </p>
<p>“Go to the people. Live with them. Learn from them. Love them. Start with what they know. Build with what they have. But with the best leaders, when the work is done, the task accomplished, the people will say &#8220;We have done this ourselves&#8221;.”</p>
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		<title>By: stephane ferey</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephane ferey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what the definition of poor, the general on of less than 1.25€ a day, or an orphan full of kids whom parents a re in jail for life sentence or dead in some country where there is no government subventions, not talking too much about the condition of those orphans, kids have not even shampoo nor soap for there basic hygiene, if at least they have toilet paper... i personally believe that the only way to understand what is all that about, it is to go to the field, to live with them, to listen to them...  to understand them.
best regards and happy new year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what the definition of poor, the general on of less than 1.25€ a day, or an orphan full of kids whom parents a re in jail for life sentence or dead in some country where there is no government subventions, not talking too much about the condition of those orphans, kids have not even shampoo nor soap for there basic hygiene, if at least they have toilet paper&#8230; i personally believe that the only way to understand what is all that about, it is to go to the field, to live with them, to listen to them&#8230;  to understand them.</p>
<p>best regards and happy new year.</p>
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		<title>By: William Easterly</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Easterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Homira,
who said anything about metrics? The point of this exercise is that some who write about &quot;the poor&quot; and who work on helping &quot;the poor&quot; really need to change some attitudes: condescension, arrogance, hubris, superiority, etc.
I sympathize with your impatience about generic &quot;Bank bashing&quot;. &quot;Bashing&quot; should have a point and try to induce change. And praise is OK as an inducement to change also, unfortunately the things to bash still outnumber the things to praise.
best, Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Homira, </p>
<p>who said anything about metrics? The point of this exercise is that some who write about &#8220;the poor&#8221; and who work on helping &#8220;the poor&#8221; really need to change some attitudes: condescension, arrogance, hubris, superiority, etc.</p>
<p>I sympathize with your impatience about generic &#8220;Bank bashing&#8221;. &#8220;Bashing&#8221; should have a point and try to induce change. And praise is OK as an inducement to change also, unfortunately the things to bash still outnumber the things to praise.</p>
<p>best, Bill</p>
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