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	<title>Comments on: A balanced reaction to &#8220;The Civil War in Development Economics&#8221;</title>
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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: econ_grad_student</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/a-balanced-reaction-to-the-civil-war-in-development-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7560</link>
		<dc:creator>econ_grad_student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Landover, exactly my point.
I think you would agree that theroetically, there are variables that explain labour participation but not wages. Empirical identification of those variable is the tricky part. The problem is therefore one of identification, not selection bias. If we have a situation of perfect identification, selection bias is not an issue, and there&#039;s no need for experiments. Obviously this is wildly unrealistic, so there is a need for experiments.
I wouln&#039;t say experiments are necessarily the &#039;gold standard&#039;, although I concede they are certainly most fashionable right now. Maybe the gold standard for a very particular type of problem, but not generally. A perfectly identified selection biased corrected regresseion model can be equally or more convinving. Experiments are easier but obviously have the scalability issue that prof. Easterly is so worried about; respectfully though, I think too much so.
Most of these papers, the good ones anyway, don&#039;t pretend to be something they&#039;re not, and are still contributing to our understanding of how important mechanisms work. They are generally read with full awareness of the limitations of experiments. We don&#039;t have perfect methods; all we can hope for is an improved understanding (as opposed to a perfect one), which is something god experiments are doind a pretty good job of providing so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Landover, exactly my point. </p>
<p>I think you would agree that theroetically, there are variables that explain labour participation but not wages. Empirical identification of those variable is the tricky part. The problem is therefore one of identification, not selection bias. If we have a situation of perfect identification, selection bias is not an issue, and there&#8217;s no need for experiments. Obviously this is wildly unrealistic, so there is a need for experiments. </p>
<p>I wouln&#8217;t say experiments are necessarily the &#8216;gold standard&#8217;, although I concede they are certainly most fashionable right now. Maybe the gold standard for a very particular type of problem, but not generally. A perfectly identified selection biased corrected regresseion model can be equally or more convinving. Experiments are easier but obviously have the scalability issue that prof. Easterly is so worried about; respectfully though, I think too much so. </p>
<p>Most of these papers, the good ones anyway, don&#8217;t pretend to be something they&#8217;re not, and are still contributing to our understanding of how important mechanisms work. They are generally read with full awareness of the limitations of experiments. We don&#8217;t have perfect methods; all we can hope for is an improved understanding (as opposed to a perfect one), which is something god experiments are doind a pretty good job of providing so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Landover</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/a-balanced-reaction-to-the-civil-war-in-development-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7539</link>
		<dc:creator>Landover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There’s a lot of focus on selection-bias here, but I’m not sure selection bias is really the biggest issue. It’s identification. We’re not that bad at correcting for selection bias, and have been able to do it using regressions since the 70s and in the past 10 years have developed ways to do it using nonparametric techniques as well.&lt;/i&gt;
It&#039;s true that there is at least one established method for correcting for selection bias but the problem remains that you need to find the right variable that would allow you to make the necessary correction. For example, It&#039;s a common procedure to correct for selection when estimating returns to education since wage earners are unlikely to be representative. But it is not easy finding a variable that affects labor market participation and not wage rate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There’s a lot of focus on selection-bias here, but I’m not sure selection bias is really the biggest issue. It’s identification. We’re not that bad at correcting for selection bias, and have been able to do it using regressions since the 70s and in the past 10 years have developed ways to do it using nonparametric techniques as well.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s true that there is at least one established method for correcting for selection bias but the problem remains that you need to find the right variable that would allow you to make the necessary correction. For example, It&#8217;s a common procedure to correct for selection when estimating returns to education since wage earners are unlikely to be representative. But it is not easy finding a variable that affects labor market participation and not wage rate.</p>
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		<title>By: econ_grad_student</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/a-balanced-reaction-to-the-civil-war-in-development-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7527</link>
		<dc:creator>econ_grad_student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot of focus on selection-bias here, but I&#039;m not sure selection bias is really the biggest issue. It&#039;s identification. We&#039;re not that bad at correcting for selection bias, and have been able to do it using regressions since the 70s and in the past 10 years have developed ways to do it using nonparametric techniques as well. The best field experiments are the ones that are able to identify specific effects that were either previously bundled into a single variable, or heavily proxied.
e.g. Olken shows corruption follows standard rules of IO. How do you identify the mechansims of corruption without an experiment? You don&#039;t.
e.g. Kling, Liebman and Katz show neighbourhood effects cause reduction in obesity and anxiety. This one does feature selction bias prominently. But, its not really overcoming the selection bias that&#039;s important. If we could predict neighborhood decisions, in a correctly specified model, we could correct for selection bias in an equation explaining anxiety or obesity using old-fashioned Heckman lamda stuff, or new-fangled nonparametric methods. But these aren&#039;t things that are easily identified using traditional data. That&#039;s the reason it gets in econometrica, not just because it overcomes selection bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of focus on selection-bias here, but I&#8217;m not sure selection bias is really the biggest issue. It&#8217;s identification. We&#8217;re not that bad at correcting for selection bias, and have been able to do it using regressions since the 70s and in the past 10 years have developed ways to do it using nonparametric techniques as well. The best field experiments are the ones that are able to identify specific effects that were either previously bundled into a single variable, or heavily proxied. </p>
<p>e.g. Olken shows corruption follows standard rules of IO. How do you identify the mechansims of corruption without an experiment? You don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>e.g. Kling, Liebman and Katz show neighbourhood effects cause reduction in obesity and anxiety. This one does feature selction bias prominently. But, its not really overcoming the selection bias that&#8217;s important. If we could predict neighborhood decisions, in a correctly specified model, we could correct for selection bias in an equation explaining anxiety or obesity using old-fashioned Heckman lamda stuff, or new-fangled nonparametric methods. But these aren&#8217;t things that are easily identified using traditional data. That&#8217;s the reason it gets in econometrica, not just because it overcomes selection bias.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 16:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck on getting RCT&#039;s approved in politicized environments! If you can&#039;t get effectiveness of the flu vaccine scientifically validated, I don&#039;t know how you have any hope of doing it for programs in more complex, politically charged environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck on getting RCT&#8217;s approved in politicized environments! If you can&#8217;t get effectiveness of the flu vaccine scientifically validated, I don&#8217;t know how you have any hope of doing it for programs in more complex, politically charged environments.</p>
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		<title>By: Thorstein Veblen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thorstein Veblen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I run the blog over at &quot;Economists for Firing Larry Summers&quot; and I reviewed a bit of Bill Easterly&#039;s past research here, which is no doubt of interest to Bill Easterly fans. It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://firelarrysummersnow.blogspot.com/2009/12/konczal-on-karelis.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; here &lt;/a&gt;.
The post includes a short review of the Easterly et. al. paper &quot;Was the Wealth of Nations
Determined in 1000 B.C.?*&quot; It was definitely an interesting-looking paper which everyone interested in development should read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I run the blog over at &#8220;Economists for Firing Larry Summers&#8221; and I reviewed a bit of Bill Easterly&#8217;s past research here, which is no doubt of interest to Bill Easterly fans. It&#8217;s <a href="http://firelarrysummersnow.blogspot.com/2009/12/konczal-on-karelis.html" rel="nofollow"> here </a>.</p>
<p>The post includes a short review of the Easterly et. al. paper &#8220;Was the Wealth of Nations<br />
Determined in 1000 B.C.?*&#8221; It was definitely an interesting-looking paper which everyone interested in development should read.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Mallonee</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/12/a-balanced-reaction-to-the-civil-war-in-development-economics/comment-page-1/#comment-7522</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Mallonee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a graduate student at Georgetown studying international development, this debate often comes up in class.
This is one of the most refreshing, succinct explanations of evaluation methods I&#039;ve seen. Truth often lies in the middle two extremes; so while I&#039;m certainly a fan of RCT&#039;s, it&#039;s foolish to consider them the only helpful evaluation tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a graduate student at Georgetown studying international development, this debate often comes up in class. </p>
<p>This is one of the most refreshing, succinct explanations of evaluation methods I&#8217;ve seen. Truth often lies in the middle two extremes; so while I&#8217;m certainly a fan of RCT&#8217;s, it&#8217;s foolish to consider them the only helpful evaluation tool.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 15:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by bill_easterly: Aid Watch: A voice of sanity addresses &quot;The Civil War in Development Economics&quot; http://bit.ly/5Jx3bj...</description>
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by bill_easterly: Aid Watch: A voice of sanity addresses &#8220;The Civil War in Development Economics&#8221; <a href="http://bit.ly/5Jx3bj.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/5Jx3bj..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Suvojit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suvojit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For me, the biggest challenge is that evaluating programs to see if they work or not does not fully capture the implementation processes in the particular NGO or government department. It should be obvious that it is meaningless to make projections about a program&#039;s success or failure without analysing the capacities and commitment of the agency (and its people) responsible for implementing it.
Perhaps every randomized trial should be accompanied by a study of the organisational practices and the implementation chain through which the program is delivered. Also, this would involve very little additional costs, since high quality RCTs usually have dedicated field researchers, who are potentially store-houses of critical organisational information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me, the biggest challenge is that evaluating programs to see if they work or not does not fully capture the implementation processes in the particular NGO or government department. It should be obvious that it is meaningless to make projections about a program&#8217;s success or failure without analysing the capacities and commitment of the agency (and its people) responsible for implementing it.</p>
<p>Perhaps every randomized trial should be accompanied by a study of the organisational practices and the implementation chain through which the program is delivered. Also, this would involve very little additional costs, since high quality RCTs usually have dedicated field researchers, who are potentially store-houses of critical organisational information.</p>
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