Comments on: My own market experiment: where I am IN or OUT http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/ just asking that aid benefit the poor Fri, 30 Jul 2010 01:21:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: orian http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6764 orian Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:55:54 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6764 Sometime it is better to be out than in, especially if people know you are out. The absence of participation could be a form of negative-participation in something you disagree with P= F[IN]- F/out[IN]+ F/in[OUT]- F/out[OUT] F[IN] function of times one is invited and heard F/out[IN] is function of times one is invited but not heard, not seen for any reason F/in[OUT] function of “silence stronger than words”- one is not invited but everybody knows he/she is not invited because he/she is disturbing of a pre-established consensus. F/out[OUT] one is completely out – not invited not heard and nobody cares…. P= Popularity Sometime it is better to be out than in, especially if people know you are out. The absence of participation could be a form of negative-participation in something you disagree with

P= F[IN]- F/out[IN]+ F/in[OUT]- F/out[OUT]

F[IN] function of times one is invited and heard

F/out[IN] is function of times one is invited but not heard, not seen for any reason

F/in[OUT] function of “silence stronger than words”- one is not invited but everybody knows he/she is not invited because he/she is disturbing of a pre-established consensus.

F/out[OUT] one is completely out – not invited not heard and nobody cares….

P= Popularity

]]> By: Bilal Siddiqi http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6763 Bilal Siddiqi Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:44:21 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6763 Bill, What's your own in/out list - i.e. conditional on getting an invitation, where do you go, and where not? And are you on the out list of the IGC (not CGI), or are they on yours? <a href="http://www.internationalgrowthcentre.org/index.php?q=node/108" rel="nofollow">http://www.internationalgrowthcentre.org/index.php?q=node/108</a> Bill,

What’s your own in/out list – i.e. conditional on getting an invitation, where do you go, and where not?

And are you on the out list of the IGC (not CGI), or are they on yours?

http://www.internationalgrowthcentre.org/index.php?q=node/108

]]> By: Anonymous http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6762 Anonymous Thu, 01 Oct 2009 05:05:21 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6762 Any chance you could simply be being fooled by the inherent randomness of it all? Any chance you could simply be being fooled by the inherent randomness of it all?

]]> By: Iyinoluwa Aboyeji http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6761 Iyinoluwa Aboyeji Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:06:23 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6761 The World Youth Alliance [www.wya.net]would ordinarily be in your "in list". We have so many points of agreement, its almost surreal. However, impoverished and youthful as we are, I doubt you will find the time for us. I guess that means we are perpetually on everyone's "out" list. Sucks! :( The World Youth Alliance [www.wya.net]would ordinarily be in your “in list”. We have so many points of agreement, its almost surreal. However, impoverished and youthful as we are, I doubt you will find the time for us. I guess that means we are perpetually on everyone’s “out” list. Sucks! :(

]]> By: Anonymous http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6760 Anonymous Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:21:12 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6760 I don't think BREAD really does invitations, although if you submitted a paper or asked to attend a meeting, I'm sure they'd be receptive. The bigger surprise is that NBER has invited you to one of their conferences – since that's an organization that hasn't given many development economists the time of day. I don’t think BREAD really does invitations, although if you submitted a paper or asked to attend a meeting, I’m sure they’d be receptive. The bigger surprise is that NBER has invited you to one of their conferences – since that’s an organization that hasn’t given many development economists the time of day.

]]> By: Jeff http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6759 Jeff Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:10:15 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6759 As flawed as the methodology might be, I think we are missing a larger point here. Easterly is "out" with certain players/voices (choose appropriate noun here) in the development field for reasons that are easily understood. After your exchange with Gates at Davos, I don't think it is any surprise that you are not invited to speak to his foundation. Re NY Times, one has only to read some of the development puff pieces they have published to realize why they would not reach out to an aid skeptic. Not everyone in this business is as open to debate as Aid Watch. For some, questioning the assumptions that are articles of faith for others is reason enough not to be invited. As flawed as the methodology might be, I think we are missing a larger point here. Easterly is “out” with certain players/voices (choose appropriate noun here) in the development field for reasons that are easily understood. After your exchange with Gates at Davos, I don’t think it is any surprise that you are not invited to speak to his foundation. Re NY Times, one has only to read some of the development puff pieces they have published to realize why they would not reach out to an aid skeptic. Not everyone in this business is as open to debate as Aid Watch. For some, questioning the assumptions that are articles of faith for others is reason enough not to be invited.

]]> By: Steve http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6758 Steve Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:57:23 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6758 I think there is an idealogical division in the list. To explain it I'd turn to Thomas Sowell and his views on the conflict between the "constrained vision" (Easterly) vs. the "unconstrained vision" (TED, Clinton Global Initiative). I think there is an idealogical division in the list. To explain it I’d turn to Thomas Sowell and his views on the conflict between the “constrained vision” (Easterly) vs. the “unconstrained vision” (TED, Clinton Global Initiative).

]]> By: Diane Bennett http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6757 Diane Bennett Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:03:34 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6757 Bill, You are presuming that conference organizers would divulge their invitation list to someone who is not on it. You would probably influence outcomes just by requesting the data, if they would even provide it. Yours, Diane Bill,

You are presuming that conference organizers would divulge their invitation list to someone who is not on it. You would probably influence outcomes just by requesting the data, if they would even provide it.

Yours,

Diane

]]> By: Bill Easterly http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6756 Bill Easterly Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:30:14 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6756 Jonathan Eyler-Werve: I am a big fan of network analysis. I think it would be fascinating to do a more systematic analysis as you suggest. At the very least, it would be fascinating to get the speaker lists for a bunch of development-related conferences, see who is invited where, and see if there are identifiable clusters of conferences that tend to invite an identifiable cluster of speakers. Also as you say, some conferences would have more universal lists than others, and it would be interesting to identify the more central ones in this sense. all the best, Bill Jonathan Eyler-Werve:

I am a big fan of network analysis. I think it would be fascinating to do a more systematic analysis as you suggest. At the very least, it would be fascinating to get the speaker lists for a bunch of development-related conferences, see who is invited where, and see if there are identifiable clusters of conferences that tend to invite an identifiable cluster of speakers. Also as you say, some conferences would have more universal lists than others, and it would be interesting to identify the more central ones in this sense.

all the best, Bill

]]> By: Robin J G http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/comment-page-1/#comment-6755 Robin J G Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:11:28 +0000 http://aidwatchers.com/2009/09/my-own-market-experiment-where-i-am-in-or-out/#comment-6755 Off-topic but have you seen "Improving Accountability at the World Bank" September 28, 2009 by Alnoor Ebrahim at HBS? Link to pdf article: <a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/6233.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/6233.pdf</a> Link to his testimony: <a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/Ebrahim-WorldBank-Testimony2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/Ebrahim-WorldBank-Testimony2009.pdf</a> General link: <a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/6233.html" rel="nofollow">http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/6233.html</a> Off-topic but have you seen “Improving Accountability at the World Bank” September 28, 2009 by Alnoor Ebrahim at HBS?

Link to pdf article:

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/item/6233.pdf

Link to his testimony:

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/pdf/Ebrahim-WorldBank-Testimony2009.pdf

General link:

http://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/6233.html

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