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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: Nobrac Caan</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/shameless-aid-behavior-awards-of-the-month/comment-page-1/#comment-6039</link>
		<dc:creator>Nobrac Caan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 10:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UK WV seems to contradict what Richard Stearns (CEO/President WV US) stated in an interview with Guy Kawasaki in May 2007:
&quot;12. Question: Why is World Vision so successful at fund raising?
Answer: The real secret of our fundraising is the notion of child sponsorship. We allow people to see the face of that one child - we make that child real to them. It is very difficult to raise money for poverty eradication - much easier to raise money to help a specific child. It makes it personal.
Of course we also have fiendishly clever and committed marketing people who really care about their cause. We also represent an amazingly compelling selling proposition: Where else can you spend your money and know that you may have saved a life, or changed the world for the better?&quot;
(Link to the Original Site)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/05/ten_or_so_quest/comments/page/2/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/05/ten_or_so_quest/comments/page/2/&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK WV seems to contradict what Richard Stearns (CEO/President WV US) stated in an interview with Guy Kawasaki in May 2007:</p>
<p>&#8220;12. Question: Why is World Vision so successful at fund raising?</p>
<p>Answer: The real secret of our fundraising is the notion of child sponsorship. We allow people to see the face of that one child &#8211; we make that child real to them. It is very difficult to raise money for poverty eradication &#8211; much easier to raise money to help a specific child. It makes it personal.</p>
<p>Of course we also have fiendishly clever and committed marketing people who really care about their cause. We also represent an amazingly compelling selling proposition: Where else can you spend your money and know that you may have saved a life, or changed the world for the better?&#8221;</p>
<p>(Link to the Original Site)</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/05/ten_or_so_quest/comments/page/2/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/05/ten_or_so_quest/comments/page/2/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian T.</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/shameless-aid-behavior-awards-of-the-month/comment-page-1/#comment-6038</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for World Vision - but I see they have responded officially and this has been posted on the blog.
Looking at how this works in practice you might be interested to see this UNICEF review of the organization&#039;s experience with child participation and the lessons learned. You will see that this looks at the creation of meaningful participation - not of using children as a means to deliver messages crafted by external agencies.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://bit.ly/QnNeq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bit.ly/QnNeq&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t speak for World Vision &#8211; but I see they have responded officially and this has been posted on the blog.</p>
<p>Looking at how this works in practice you might be interested to see this UNICEF review of the organization&#8217;s experience with child participation and the lessons learned. You will see that this looks at the creation of meaningful participation &#8211; not of using children as a means to deliver messages crafted by external agencies.</p>
<p><a href="http://bit.ly/QnNeq" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/QnNeq</a></p>
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		<title>By: qualm-storm</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/shameless-aid-behavior-awards-of-the-month/comment-page-1/#comment-6037</link>
		<dc:creator>qualm-storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 07:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian - I was expecting the UNICEF document to draw some conclusions or make recommendations about the use children and youth in development and was disappointed that its just an extensive annotated biography on the subject.
Of course children and youth have opinions and rights and concerns and everything else, including the right to influence the families and the societies in which they live.
But we should always be wary when an organization - especially a powerful international organization working in a poor community - urges children to act a certain way, or adopt a set of beliefs, or urge their parents to do or not do something.
Most of the time this is harmless or even positive - like children learning about the consequences of smoking and getting their parents to stop, or about the importance of recycling.  But its a a slippery slope, with Pavlik Morozov and Stephen of Cloyes at the bottom.
We should be especially wary when that organization is World Vision, which in my experience frequently has a hard time distinguishing between evangelism and development.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian &#8211; I was expecting the UNICEF document to draw some conclusions or make recommendations about the use children and youth in development and was disappointed that its just an extensive annotated biography on the subject.</p>
<p>Of course children and youth have opinions and rights and concerns and everything else, including the right to influence the families and the societies in which they live.</p>
<p>But we should always be wary when an organization &#8211; especially a powerful international organization working in a poor community &#8211; urges children to act a certain way, or adopt a set of beliefs, or urge their parents to do or not do something.</p>
<p>Most of the time this is harmless or even positive &#8211; like children learning about the consequences of smoking and getting their parents to stop, or about the importance of recycling.  But its a a slippery slope, with Pavlik Morozov and Stephen of Cloyes at the bottom.</p>
<p>We should be especially wary when that organization is World Vision, which in my experience frequently has a hard time distinguishing between evangelism and development.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering the opportunistic trashy propaganda the Save Darfur coalition spits out, the thong ought to come with instructions to be worn back to front and inside out.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the opportunistic trashy propaganda the Save Darfur coalition spits out, the thong ought to come with instructions to be worn back to front and inside out.</p>
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		<title>By: Penelope</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penelope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: Cafepress thong.
I manage a cafepress store - similarly, we use it as a fundraising tool.
As a cafepress store manager, you select the items you want your logo on. I personally find it extremely distasteful to choose to include your logo on a thong when fundraising for a cause as serious as what is happening in Darfur.
No cafepress store owner *has* to include thongs - it&#039;s a choice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: Cafepress thong.</p>
<p>I manage a cafepress store &#8211; similarly, we use it as a fundraising tool.</p>
<p>As a cafepress store manager, you select the items you want your logo on. I personally find it extremely distasteful to choose to include your logo on a thong when fundraising for a cause as serious as what is happening in Darfur.</p>
<p>No cafepress store owner *has* to include thongs &#8211; it&#8217;s a choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To respond to qualm storm - children are entitled to and do have views on issues such the ones you cite here. They have a right to access to information, the right to make up their own minds and to express their views including trying to influence the opinions and behaviours of adults in the societies where they live.
The important part of this for governments, aid egencies etc. is to support children&#039;s participation in an ethical manner - not to manipulate their views or use them as window dressing.
Here is a link to a guide that was developed to promote good ethical practice in this area - World Vision are one of te organizations that contributed to and use this guide.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.unicef.org/adolescence/cypguide/files/Child_and_Youth_Participation_Guide(1).pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.unicef.org/adolescence/cypguide/files/Child_and_Youth_Participation_Guide(1).pdf&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To respond to qualm storm &#8211; children are entitled to and do have views on issues such the ones you cite here. They have a right to access to information, the right to make up their own minds and to express their views including trying to influence the opinions and behaviours of adults in the societies where they live.</p>
<p>The important part of this for governments, aid egencies etc. is to support children&#8217;s participation in an ethical manner &#8211; not to manipulate their views or use them as window dressing.</p>
<p>Here is a link to a guide that was developed to promote good ethical practice in this area &#8211; World Vision are one of te organizations that contributed to and use this guide.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.unicef.org/adolescence/cypguide/files/Child_and_Youth_Participation_Guide(1).pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.unicef.org/adolescence/cypguide/files/Child_and_Youth_Participation_Guide(1).pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: qualm-storm</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/shameless-aid-behavior-awards-of-the-month/comment-page-1/#comment-6033</link>
		<dc:creator>qualm-storm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The World Vision thing is somehow particularly discomforting because they&#039;re essentially an evangelical organization that does development work.  And while the intentions of the may be completely laudatory, there&#039;s always something creepy about someone (especially an international someone) training children to influence their parents:
&quot;Across Asia children are involved in children’s clubs, learning about health issues, talking to their peers about how to avoid HIV infection, warning classmates to watch out for the traffickers who trawl their villages, encouraging local government officials to improve their schools, training parents how to grow healthier food and be more hygienic at home, and even advocating against the alcohol salesmen who turn their dads into violent beasts at home.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The World Vision thing is somehow particularly discomforting because they&#8217;re essentially an evangelical organization that does development work.  And while the intentions of the may be completely laudatory, there&#8217;s always something creepy about someone (especially an international someone) training children to influence their parents:</p>
<p>&#8220;Across Asia children are involved in children’s clubs, learning about health issues, talking to their peers about how to avoid HIV infection, warning classmates to watch out for the traffickers who trawl their villages, encouraging local government officials to improve their schools, training parents how to grow healthier food and be more hygienic at home, and even advocating against the alcohol salesmen who turn their dads into violent beasts at home.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: zulusafari</title>
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		<dc:creator>zulusafari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ethnicsupplies
Interesting you say that. As I was walking (yes, with my feet b/c we don&#039;t have $ for vehicles) a World Vision Land Cruiser passed by. I started to wonder to myself... if an NGO (or &#039;implimentor&#039;) got a grant for say $200k. They spend around $100k on 2 vehicles. They spend another $60k on hiring two nationals. That leaves $40k for the actual project, that&#039;s 20%. But still haven&#039;t purchased a lot of other stuff yet.
Just an extreme example off the top of my head to how I see money spent in Africa by Aid organizations.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ethnicsupplies</p>
<p>Interesting you say that. As I was walking (yes, with my feet b/c we don&#8217;t have $ for vehicles) a World Vision Land Cruiser passed by. I started to wonder to myself&#8230; if an NGO (or &#8216;implimentor&#8217;) got a grant for say $200k. They spend around $100k on 2 vehicles. They spend another $60k on hiring two nationals. That leaves $40k for the actual project, that&#8217;s 20%. But still haven&#8217;t purchased a lot of other stuff yet.</p>
<p>Just an extreme example off the top of my head to how I see money spent in Africa by Aid organizations.</p>
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		<title>By: J.</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: #2 - so, you&#039;re saying it&#039;s not important for G8 to hear the voices of children as they make decisions that carry global ramifications? And if it is important, then what would you suggest practically? Sending G8 reps to the field is clearly out, per your posts on poverty tourism. The motivations of anyone else who attempts to speak for children are suspect and therefore invalid, per your previous point in this post about Bono.
... oh, crap, my blackberry is buzzing... will get back to you with more later...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: #2 &#8211; so, you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s not important for G8 to hear the voices of children as they make decisions that carry global ramifications? And if it is important, then what would you suggest practically? Sending G8 reps to the field is clearly out, per your posts on poverty tourism. The motivations of anyone else who attempts to speak for children are suspect and therefore invalid, per your previous point in this post about Bono.</p>
<p>&#8230; oh, crap, my blackberry is buzzing&#8230; will get back to you with more later&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ethnicsupplies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethnicsupplies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding 2 and 3, if I had a penny for every African woman and child that told me they never get to see the money nor the likes of Bono and his chums...
I have always been curious as to what %age of World Vision&#039;s income and others like them actually ends up in the developing world
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding 2 and 3, if I had a penny for every African woman and child that told me they never get to see the money nor the likes of Bono and his chums&#8230;</p>
<p>I have always been curious as to what %age of World Vision&#8217;s income and others like them actually ends up in the developing world</p>
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