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	<title>Comments on: Didn&#8217;t we try that in 1938? Why technical poverty fixes fall short</title>
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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Vesco</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/didnt-we-try-that-in-1938-why-technical-poverty-fixes-fall-short/comment-page-1/#comment-6606</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Vesco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the heart of this problem, it&#039;s not about economics changing peoples&#039; use of specific technologies, but about nudging macro changes in peoples&#039; habits and cultures.
It&#039;s not enough that folks just learn to appreciate and use bednets for example -- it&#039;s a whole set of values and habits that need to change. On this note, economics falls short in providing a solution.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the heart of this problem, it&#8217;s not about economics changing peoples&#8217; use of specific technologies, but about nudging macro changes in peoples&#8217; habits and cultures.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough that folks just learn to appreciate and use bednets for example &#8212; it&#8217;s a whole set of values and habits that need to change. On this note, economics falls short in providing a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 04:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This just shows once again UN&#039;s incompetence in development.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just shows once again UN&#8217;s incompetence in development.</p>
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		<title>By: thesis paper</title>
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		<dc:creator>thesis paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 21:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article, thanks for putting this together! &quot;This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here. Keep it up!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article, thanks for putting this together! &#8220;This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here. Keep it up!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: thesis paper</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/07/didnt-we-try-that-in-1938-why-technical-poverty-fixes-fall-short/comment-page-1/#comment-5999</link>
		<dc:creator>thesis paper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful article, thanks for putting this together! &quot;This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here. Keep it up!&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful article, thanks for putting this together! &#8220;This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here. Keep it up!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Saunby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Saunby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve posted some of my thoughts on this here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wepoco.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.wepoco.org&lt;/a&gt;
In particular that although Americans might have forgotten, most Europeans and Africans are likely to know very well why any ideas from 1938 weren&#039;t implemented.
That the same needs exist today as 70 years ago is perhaps not too surprising - much of Africa hasn&#039;t changed in that time.
The comments about radio are interesting though, since one major development of the 1930s was broadcast propaganda.  I&#039;ve posted a copy of an advert from 1935 on my blog -  &lt;a href=&quot;http://saunby.blogspot.com/2009/07/there-is-crisis-in-europe.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://saunby.blogspot.com/2009/07/there-is-crisis-in-europe.html&lt;/a&gt;
One consequence of all this was the development of the BBC World Service, and after Perl Harbour even the Americans realised the world had changed and launched Voice of America.
Railways, radio, cell-phones, Internet and other disruptive technologies are quite likely just as important for development as steady progress in agriculture, medicine, construction and the like.  Though I&#039;d hazard a guess that economists generally don&#039;t have much to say about stuff that can&#039;t be predicted.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted some of my thoughts on this here <a href="http://www.wepoco.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.wepoco.org</a></p>
<p>In particular that although Americans might have forgotten, most Europeans and Africans are likely to know very well why any ideas from 1938 weren&#8217;t implemented.</p>
<p>That the same needs exist today as 70 years ago is perhaps not too surprising &#8211; much of Africa hasn&#8217;t changed in that time.</p>
<p>The comments about radio are interesting though, since one major development of the 1930s was broadcast propaganda.  I&#8217;ve posted a copy of an advert from 1935 on my blog &#8211;  <a href="http://saunby.blogspot.com/2009/07/there-is-crisis-in-europe.html" rel="nofollow">http://saunby.blogspot.com/2009/07/there-is-crisis-in-europe.html</a></p>
<p>One consequence of all this was the development of the BBC World Service, and after Perl Harbour even the Americans realised the world had changed and launched Voice of America.</p>
<p>Railways, radio, cell-phones, Internet and other disruptive technologies are quite likely just as important for development as steady progress in agriculture, medicine, construction and the like.  Though I&#8217;d hazard a guess that economists generally don&#8217;t have much to say about stuff that can&#8217;t be predicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one possible approach is to look at all the technical solutions that have been known about, often for hundreds of years, and then try and find out why they haven&#039;t been put into effect. That is to say to look for the disincentives.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one possible approach is to look at all the technical solutions that have been known about, often for hundreds of years, and then try and find out why they haven&#8217;t been put into effect. That is to say to look for the disincentives.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Land tenure
“… legal security against attack or disturbance can most effectively be guaranteed by registration”
“security in private property and tenure rights … registration of property”&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;So Lord Halley beat de Soto to it by decades.
Of course often land registration has actually compounded the problem. In &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Slums-Mike-Davis/dp/1844671607/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1248424457&amp;sr=8-1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;Planet of Slums&#039;&lt;/a&gt; Mike Davis points out that the formalization of tenure in urban conglomerations in most of the third world has actually made the situation of the poor worse and given them less security. De Soto believes that security of tenure will allow the poor to use their property as collateral for loans, but in practice that will merely legally facilitate local loan sharks taking over ownership.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Land tenure</p>
<p>“… legal security against attack or disturbance can most effectively be guaranteed by registration”</p>
<p>“security in private property and tenure rights … registration of property”</i></p></blockquote>
<p>So Lord Halley beat de Soto to it by decades.</p>
<p>Of course often land registration has actually compounded the problem. In <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Slums-Mike-Davis/dp/1844671607/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1248424457&#038;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">&#8216;Planet of Slums&#8217;</a> Mike Davis points out that the formalization of tenure in urban conglomerations in most of the third world has actually made the situation of the poor worse and given them less security. De Soto believes that security of tenure will allow the poor to use their property as collateral for loans, but in practice that will merely legally facilitate local loan sharks taking over ownership.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always at the core: government has no valid role in civilized society.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always at the core: government has no valid role in civilized society.</p>
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		<title>By: Asif Dowla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asif Dowla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only one question: why didn&#039;t Lord Hailey or the colonial government do anything about it? I forgot, they were busy plundering Africa!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only one question: why didn&#8217;t Lord Hailey or the colonial government do anything about it? I forgot, they were busy plundering Africa!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Barnes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill--
As important as the role of economics is in assessing opportunities for technological innovation, I would make a case for marketing as key.  Good marketers listen to customer feedback and produce a package of appropriate pricing, distribution and promotion that drives the adoption of new technologies.  Economists look retrospectively at costs and benefits and do not sufficiently consider the potential for increasing perceived value through marketing.  What would an economist have predicted for the cell phone market in Africa in 1990?  The explosion in the adoption of that technology is due to brilliant marketing that marketers did see and an economist never would have seen.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill&#8211;</p>
<p>As important as the role of economics is in assessing opportunities for technological innovation, I would make a case for marketing as key.  Good marketers listen to customer feedback and produce a package of appropriate pricing, distribution and promotion that drives the adoption of new technologies.  Economists look retrospectively at costs and benefits and do not sufficiently consider the potential for increasing perceived value through marketing.  What would an economist have predicted for the cell phone market in Africa in 1990?  The explosion in the adoption of that technology is due to brilliant marketing that marketers did see and an economist never would have seen.</p>
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