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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: stephen Sebit James</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/03/why-does-british-foreign-aid-prefer-poor-governments-over-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-4706</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen Sebit James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 08:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mundari Tali , appeal international community to have Mercy on our Community Problem.

Tali  is a famous Place in the central Equatorial State South Sudan, Tali had remain behind in the government of Southern Sudan activities such like development and education including good tarmac ( Road) and good healthcare which are the not delivery on the ground since the government of South Sudan got establish in 2005 .

The government of Southern Sudan had seriously forgotten the historical place Talipostbasin the place that god has bless it with Oil filed Block Ea.

The community not received Road health centre water-point such like hand –pump or good presentation in the government of south Sudan.

They has got only six chiefdom without education provided to us as well during the British Rule in Sudan, Captain Cook and Evan John had ran the Tali community administration willingly by building schools rest house, police station, hospital, and prisons in our area an in fact they lad down rule of law very well” God bless the British Nation.

So Tali community appealing to civil society organizations, indigenous NGOs and peace lover were Call by the community  to have Mercy  and to continuous to pray  for us  in order God to restored back historical place we had suffered a lot during the Civil war in the South Sudan our places was turn into military barrack and every thing there on ground was destroyed by SPLA / Sudan Army force “ and our rural women now in Tali are suffering for fetching water  in far distance  as well lack of healthcare, Midwife, hospital and indeed there is no granting meal . There is no development because of no good road to make the services to flow to the area

God Bless  Talipost basin block Ea with Oil, Gas and Uranium in

Tali community

South Sudan

Email:tali.community@yahoo.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mundari Tali , appeal international community to have Mercy on our Community Problem.</p>
<p>Tali  is a famous Place in the central Equatorial State South Sudan, Tali had remain behind in the government of Southern Sudan activities such like development and education including good tarmac ( Road) and good healthcare which are the not delivery on the ground since the government of South Sudan got establish in 2005 .</p>
<p>The government of Southern Sudan had seriously forgotten the historical place Talipostbasin the place that god has bless it with Oil filed Block Ea.</p>
<p>The community not received Road health centre water-point such like hand –pump or good presentation in the government of south Sudan.</p>
<p>They has got only six chiefdom without education provided to us as well during the British Rule in Sudan, Captain Cook and Evan John had ran the Tali community administration willingly by building schools rest house, police station, hospital, and prisons in our area an in fact they lad down rule of law very well” God bless the British Nation.</p>
<p>So Tali community appealing to civil society organizations, indigenous NGOs and peace lover were Call by the community  to have Mercy  and to continuous to pray  for us  in order God to restored back historical place we had suffered a lot during the Civil war in the South Sudan our places was turn into military barrack and every thing there on ground was destroyed by SPLA / Sudan Army force “ and our rural women now in Tali are suffering for fetching water  in far distance  as well lack of healthcare, Midwife, hospital and indeed there is no granting meal . There is no development because of no good road to make the services to flow to the area</p>
<p>God Bless  Talipost basin block Ea with Oil, Gas and Uranium in</p>
<p>Tali community</p>
<p>South Sudan</p>
<p>Email:tali.community@yahoo.com</p>
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		<title>By: BP</title>
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		<dc:creator>BP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog has some of the most intelligent and reasoned commentary I&#039;ve come across ... I get as much information from the comments section as I do from the articles themselves. Really appreciate that.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog has some of the most intelligent and reasoned commentary I&#8217;ve come across &#8230; I get as much information from the comments section as I do from the articles themselves. Really appreciate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Open Budgets Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Open Budgets Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;(How) does budget support build domestic&#160;accountability?&lt;/strong&gt;

A few weeks ago, William Easterly published a characteristic attack on DFID&#8217;s  promotion of general budget support on his Aidwatch blog entitled  Why Does British Foreign Aid Prefer Poor Governments Over Poor People? He argues that DFID gives b...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>(How) does budget support build domestic&nbsp;accountability?</strong></p>
<p>A few weeks ago, William Easterly published a characteristic attack on DFID&#8217;s  promotion of general budget support on his Aidwatch blog entitled  Why Does British Foreign Aid Prefer Poor Governments Over Poor People? He argues that DFID gives b&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DKF</title>
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		<dc:creator>DKF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The US doesn&#039;t (yet) give budget support.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US doesn&#8217;t (yet) give budget support.</p>
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		<title>By: KFC</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/03/why-does-british-foreign-aid-prefer-poor-governments-over-poor-people/comment-page-1/#comment-4703</link>
		<dc:creator>KFC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 04:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are talking across each other. But that is the nature of budget support arguments. Little clear evidence for either side. On Ethiopia, Aidwatch has been sloppy with its 99 percent figure. However, being familiar with the repressive nature of the EPRDF regime, some of their vote was certainly coerced. Though probably not all of it. Not all Ethiopians are enamoured of the old aristocracy represented to some extent by the CDU. Question is, does the expansion of public services, with foreign government funding, underwrite this oppressive regime? Or does it, as Barder tries to argue, encourage greater accountability within Ethiopia? My suspicion is the former, I&#039;m afraid, and Barder probably suspects that too, living in Addis.

Barder&#039;s presentation of oecd material as &#039;evidence&#039; is pretty weak. DFID itself is a major figure in OECD, the donors club. Their evaluations are hardly disinterested. So dismiss oecd reports, in this case.

As for corruption? Here in Tanzania, DFID&#039;s largest aid recipient I believe, the unseemly scramble for rents by elites is played out more and more publicly, with little sign of it abating and every sign it may be getting worse - rents that wouldn&#039;t be so considerable but for the 35 percent of the government budget that comes from donors.

So the trade off is between patchy improvements in indicators that at times have a real impact on poor people&#039;s lives and supporting dodgy regimes who ultimately couldn&#039;t care less about those same people. It&#039;s a tough one and I&#039;m suspicious of the cheerleaders on both sides. But you can probably work out which way I lean.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are talking across each other. But that is the nature of budget support arguments. Little clear evidence for either side. On Ethiopia, Aidwatch has been sloppy with its 99 percent figure. However, being familiar with the repressive nature of the EPRDF regime, some of their vote was certainly coerced. Though probably not all of it. Not all Ethiopians are enamoured of the old aristocracy represented to some extent by the CDU. Question is, does the expansion of public services, with foreign government funding, underwrite this oppressive regime? Or does it, as Barder tries to argue, encourage greater accountability within Ethiopia? My suspicion is the former, I&#8217;m afraid, and Barder probably suspects that too, living in Addis.</p>
<p>Barder&#8217;s presentation of oecd material as &#8216;evidence&#8217; is pretty weak. DFID itself is a major figure in OECD, the donors club. Their evaluations are hardly disinterested. So dismiss oecd reports, in this case.</p>
<p>As for corruption? Here in Tanzania, DFID&#8217;s largest aid recipient I believe, the unseemly scramble for rents by elites is played out more and more publicly, with little sign of it abating and every sign it may be getting worse &#8211; rents that wouldn&#8217;t be so considerable but for the 35 percent of the government budget that comes from donors.</p>
<p>So the trade off is between patchy improvements in indicators that at times have a real impact on poor people&#8217;s lives and supporting dodgy regimes who ultimately couldn&#8217;t care less about those same people. It&#8217;s a tough one and I&#8217;m suspicious of the cheerleaders on both sides. But you can probably work out which way I lean.</p>
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		<title>By: koster</title>
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		<dc:creator>koster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Anglo-Americans love &quot;friendly tyrants&quot;  from Mobutu/Meles to Pinochet. Unfortunately such attitude of supporting enemies of their people did not brought peace and development either for the countries in the South or North.

It is high time for the US to reconsider their politics and associate with friends of the people but not enemies of the people.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Anglo-Americans love &#8220;friendly tyrants&#8221;  from Mobutu/Meles to Pinochet. Unfortunately such attitude of supporting enemies of their people did not brought peace and development either for the countries in the South or North.</p>
<p>It is high time for the US to reconsider their politics and associate with friends of the people but not enemies of the people.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Saunby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Saunby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in 2007 I visited Ethiopia, it was my first, and so far only visit.  I&#039;ll not go into too much detail here, but just that one visit, preparing for it, and what happened next taught me a lot about Ethiopia, aid, and how my own country - I work for the UK Met Office, fails to help the poor.

The reason for the visit was the realisation that I and some colleagues had that providing &quot;developed country grade&quot; weather forecasts to Ethiopian farmers would enable them to produce more food, perhaps as much as 10% more for the whole country. So we wanted to see if the infrastructure there could support delivering the right information to the right people, and as far as it went the answer was yes.  Though as with so many things related to aid, the sensible thing didn&#039;t happen, so the farmers still don&#039;t get the forecasts.

What happens instead is of course entirely rational if aid is being provided by a democracy.  Except of course much of the aid is wasted - since there&#039;s no reason to be efficient, or effective, just as fair as possible.  It seems likely that those who identify where UK aid goes don&#039;t want to be providing aid to people who could be helped by their own government.  Hence aid goes to the poorest countries.

Once the country has been identified the aid is then directed towards the poorest regions, and quite possibly to the poorest communities and eventually to the poorest people.  In many ways I&#039;m entirely happy with this arrangement if it doesn&#039;t stop development.  Trouble is my own experience is that it does inhibit development.

To trial improvements in agricultural productivity in Ethiopia our project needed to work with farmers that weren&#039;t on the edge of famine but who produced a surplus and had the necessary networks to market an even greater surplus and invest in their community.  There are many such farmers in the more central regions on Ethiopia, that of course never get discussed when aid is the topic.

We haven&#039;t given up, and after quite a lot of grief from our bosses, we didn&#039;t even get sacked - I suppose that&#039;s one bonus of being a UK civil servant.

So if all goes well the project will restart later this year, but working with farmers in Nepal.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in 2007 I visited Ethiopia, it was my first, and so far only visit.  I&#8217;ll not go into too much detail here, but just that one visit, preparing for it, and what happened next taught me a lot about Ethiopia, aid, and how my own country &#8211; I work for the UK Met Office, fails to help the poor.</p>
<p>The reason for the visit was the realisation that I and some colleagues had that providing &#8220;developed country grade&#8221; weather forecasts to Ethiopian farmers would enable them to produce more food, perhaps as much as 10% more for the whole country. So we wanted to see if the infrastructure there could support delivering the right information to the right people, and as far as it went the answer was yes.  Though as with so many things related to aid, the sensible thing didn&#8217;t happen, so the farmers still don&#8217;t get the forecasts.</p>
<p>What happens instead is of course entirely rational if aid is being provided by a democracy.  Except of course much of the aid is wasted &#8211; since there&#8217;s no reason to be efficient, or effective, just as fair as possible.  It seems likely that those who identify where UK aid goes don&#8217;t want to be providing aid to people who could be helped by their own government.  Hence aid goes to the poorest countries.</p>
<p>Once the country has been identified the aid is then directed towards the poorest regions, and quite possibly to the poorest communities and eventually to the poorest people.  In many ways I&#8217;m entirely happy with this arrangement if it doesn&#8217;t stop development.  Trouble is my own experience is that it does inhibit development.</p>
<p>To trial improvements in agricultural productivity in Ethiopia our project needed to work with farmers that weren&#8217;t on the edge of famine but who produced a surplus and had the necessary networks to market an even greater surplus and invest in their community.  There are many such farmers in the more central regions on Ethiopia, that of course never get discussed when aid is the topic.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t given up, and after quite a lot of grief from our bosses, we didn&#8217;t even get sacked &#8211; I suppose that&#8217;s one bonus of being a UK civil servant.</p>
<p>So if all goes well the project will restart later this year, but working with farmers in Nepal.</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Per Kurowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q. Suppose that all the net results from the oil placed by providence in a country had been equally divided among its citizens, those arguably the most legitimate owners of said oil. Let us then suppose that the central government requests the citizens to give all these moneys to it... what would we have?

A. We would have the mother of all the regressive tax systems, with the marginal tax rate for the poorest being 100%.

Would anyone really support such a regressive tax system? I don’t think so!

The reason the most fundamental piece of the oil curse, the centralization of oil revenues in government´s hands, making them wealthy independently of their citizens,  is so little discussed is because governments speaks mostly to governments and, in these discussions, among colleagues, the citizens are really of secondary importance.

The truth is that there is no such thing as an oil-cursed politicians, oil-cursed governments or oil cursed policymakers, on the contrary they are all most often shining examples of oil blessings... there are only oil-cursed citizens and that is why we need a global coalition of oil cursed citizens.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q. Suppose that all the net results from the oil placed by providence in a country had been equally divided among its citizens, those arguably the most legitimate owners of said oil. Let us then suppose that the central government requests the citizens to give all these moneys to it&#8230; what would we have?</p>
<p>A. We would have the mother of all the regressive tax systems, with the marginal tax rate for the poorest being 100%.</p>
<p>Would anyone really support such a regressive tax system? I don’t think so!</p>
<p>The reason the most fundamental piece of the oil curse, the centralization of oil revenues in government´s hands, making them wealthy independently of their citizens,  is so little discussed is because governments speaks mostly to governments and, in these discussions, among colleagues, the citizens are really of secondary importance.</p>
<p>The truth is that there is no such thing as an oil-cursed politicians, oil-cursed governments or oil cursed policymakers, on the contrary they are all most often shining examples of oil blessings&#8230; there are only oil-cursed citizens and that is why we need a global coalition of oil cursed citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Owen Barder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owen Barder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former UK aid official whose judgement and integrity are questioned by this article, you might want to read my rebuttal at:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.owen.org/blog/2229&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.owen.org/blog/2229&lt;/a&gt;

Owen

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former UK aid official whose judgement and integrity are questioned by this article, you might want to read my rebuttal at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.owen.org/blog/2229" rel="nofollow">http://www.owen.org/blog/2229</a></p>
<p>Owen</p>
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		<title>By: AJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>AJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 09:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A must-read article in WSJ today.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html#mod=todays_us_weekend_journal&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html#mod=todays_us_weekend_journal&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A must-read article in WSJ today.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html#mod=todays_us_weekend_journal" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123758895999200083.html#mod=todays_us_weekend_journal</a></p>
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