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	<title>Comments on: The UN’s 66-Year-Old Virgin</title>
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	<description>just asking that aid benefit the poor</description>
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		<title>By: Sceptical Secondo</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4553</link>
		<dc:creator>Sceptical Secondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A physicist, a carpenter and an economist go hunting. Seeing a deer on the hill, they all take aim. The physicist misses by a yard to the left, the carpenter by a yard to the right. The economist happily shouts: &quot;We got it!&quot;
The troubling beauty of the &#039;East Asian miracle&#039; is that there&#039;s something in it for all &#039;schools&#039;. I&#039;d celebrate the day more researchers took the complexity approach.
Reading Suggestion: &#039;The End of Certainty: Time, Chaos, and the New Laws of Nature&#039;, Ilya Prigogine
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A physicist, a carpenter and an economist go hunting. Seeing a deer on the hill, they all take aim. The physicist misses by a yard to the left, the carpenter by a yard to the right. The economist happily shouts: &#8220;We got it!&#8221;</p>
<p>The troubling beauty of the &#8216;East Asian miracle&#8217; is that there&#8217;s something in it for all &#8216;schools&#8217;. I&#8217;d celebrate the day more researchers took the complexity approach.</p>
<p>Reading Suggestion: &#8216;The End of Certainty: Time, Chaos, and the New Laws of Nature&#8217;, Ilya Prigogine</p>
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		<title>By: skeptical</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4552</link>
		<dc:creator>skeptical</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As empirical economists, we can only say what succeeds or fails on average&quot; - on average, the person with her head in the oven and the feet in the fridge is doing just fine! the challenge is not to swing from one extreme (the state is everything) to the other extreme (the market is everything) every few decades or so, but rather to find a way to incorporate local context into general theories.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As empirical economists, we can only say what succeeds or fails on average&#8221; &#8211; on average, the person with her head in the oven and the feet in the fridge is doing just fine! the challenge is not to swing from one extreme (the state is everything) to the other extreme (the market is everything) every few decades or so, but rather to find a way to incorporate local context into general theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Per Kurowski</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4551</link>
		<dc:creator>Per Kurowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best answer to this question about government interventions would in the famous words of one of our presidents in Venezuela be phrased as “neither this nor that but just the opposite”.
I myself and signing up on much of what was said above by Tord Steiro with respect to incentives, always try to use a matrix that include all the combinations between the market and the government having the right incentives or not, and possessing the resources or not, all in order to produce a second best list, that goes from worse to best.
As you can understand, as a citizen from an oil-cursed country, my best of the best is always having the market with incentives and resources and the government with incentives but NO resources. There is nothing as bad as an independently wealthy government.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best answer to this question about government interventions would in the famous words of one of our presidents in Venezuela be phrased as “neither this nor that but just the opposite”.</p>
<p>I myself and signing up on much of what was said above by Tord Steiro with respect to incentives, always try to use a matrix that include all the combinations between the market and the government having the right incentives or not, and possessing the resources or not, all in order to produce a second best list, that goes from worse to best.</p>
<p>As you can understand, as a citizen from an oil-cursed country, my best of the best is always having the market with incentives and resources and the government with incentives but NO resources. There is nothing as bad as an independently wealthy government.</p>
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		<title>By: Student of International Development</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>Student of International Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 04:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is widely recognized that South Korea and Chinese industrial growth did not result only from market forces but often involved significant state intervention into the economy.  Where Collier&#039;s theory may share some characteristics to that of Rosenstein-Rodan, at least it is not a bold faced lie.  This blog post by William Easterly is completely irresponsible, and reeks of ideology.  We should expect more from an academic of this stature.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is widely recognized that South Korea and Chinese industrial growth did not result only from market forces but often involved significant state intervention into the economy.  Where Collier&#8217;s theory may share some characteristics to that of Rosenstein-Rodan, at least it is not a bold faced lie.  This blog post by William Easterly is completely irresponsible, and reeks of ideology.  We should expect more from an academic of this stature.</p>
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		<title>By: qt</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4549</link>
		<dc:creator>qt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 11:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth considering &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/books/review/Kristof-t.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the history of another idea from the international community&lt;/a&gt;.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth considering <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/books/review/Kristof-t.html" rel="nofollow">the history of another idea from the international community</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4548</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you post a link to the 1943 Rosenstein-Rodan article? JSTOR and Google are failing me for some reason.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you post a link to the 1943 Rosenstein-Rodan article? JSTOR and Google are failing me for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4547</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so allow me to summarise your position Bill:
you should offer policy recommendation based on your prior (ideologically rather than analytically based) beliefs on what works regardless of the place in question. The job of policy recommendations is explicitly not to try and understand why certain policies worked in particular countries at particular times, and certainly not to tailor policy recommendations to a particular context.
Understood. Good point actually.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so allow me to summarise your position Bill:</p>
<p>you should offer policy recommendation based on your prior (ideologically rather than analytically based) beliefs on what works regardless of the place in question. The job of policy recommendations is explicitly not to try and understand why certain policies worked in particular countries at particular times, and certainly not to tailor policy recommendations to a particular context.</p>
<p>Understood. Good point actually.</p>
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		<title>By: Student of International Development</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4546</link>
		<dc:creator>Student of International Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is widely recognized that South Korea and Chinese industrial growth did not result only from market forces but often involved significant state intervention into the economy.  Where Collier&#039;s theory may share some characteristics to that of Rosenstein-Rodan, at least it is not a bold faced lie.  This blog post by William Easterly is completely irresponsible, and reeks of ideology.  We should expect more from an academic of this stature.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is widely recognized that South Korea and Chinese industrial growth did not result only from market forces but often involved significant state intervention into the economy.  Where Collier&#8217;s theory may share some characteristics to that of Rosenstein-Rodan, at least it is not a bold faced lie.  This blog post by William Easterly is completely irresponsible, and reeks of ideology.  We should expect more from an academic of this stature.</p>
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		<title>By: Tord Steiro</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4545</link>
		<dc:creator>Tord Steiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the elusive novelty and creativity of the UN report, however, Bill, you do miss out an important point (which I learned from you, btw):
Incentives!!!
Governments with incentives to pursue good development policies will most likely be capable of doing so, governments with  an incentive to do something else, will most likely do something else.
The Kuomintang government of Taiwan was, in 1940&#039;s, notorious for being one of the most corrupt and least capable governments in the world. Calling them incompetent would be an understatement. But they knew that the only hope they had to stay alive was through successful development of what little they had left - Taiwan - let alone their aspirations of redeployment on the mainland.
They HAD to delevop a strong industrial base and a sound economy. They HAD to outperform Mao. And they certainly did.
South Korea faced a similar threat from North Korea, that turned another incompetent government into a competent one because they knew they had to.
The incentives to pursue good policies can come in various forms, but if any such incentive is absent, we know what we will get: Your average government run development. Most developing country givernment do not have any strong incentive to develop their countries - they have strong incentives to implement corruption and predate on natural resources and aid. That do tell us something about the charachter of the challenge - developing country governments need checks and balances in oder to shape their incentives - but that doesn&#039;t tell us anything more revolutionary than the fact that incentives matters.
And ranting on about government driven or market driven development in this context is irrelevant. If markets works and gives market agents the proper incentives - fine! If governments are facing the proper incentives - then that is fine too!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the elusive novelty and creativity of the UN report, however, Bill, you do miss out an important point (which I learned from you, btw):</p>
<p>Incentives!!!</p>
<p>Governments with incentives to pursue good development policies will most likely be capable of doing so, governments with  an incentive to do something else, will most likely do something else.</p>
<p>The Kuomintang government of Taiwan was, in 1940&#8242;s, notorious for being one of the most corrupt and least capable governments in the world. Calling them incompetent would be an understatement. But they knew that the only hope they had to stay alive was through successful development of what little they had left &#8211; Taiwan &#8211; let alone their aspirations of redeployment on the mainland.</p>
<p>They HAD to delevop a strong industrial base and a sound economy. They HAD to outperform Mao. And they certainly did.</p>
<p>South Korea faced a similar threat from North Korea, that turned another incompetent government into a competent one because they knew they had to.</p>
<p>The incentives to pursue good policies can come in various forms, but if any such incentive is absent, we know what we will get: Your average government run development. Most developing country givernment do not have any strong incentive to develop their countries &#8211; they have strong incentives to implement corruption and predate on natural resources and aid. That do tell us something about the charachter of the challenge &#8211; developing country governments need checks and balances in oder to shape their incentives &#8211; but that doesn&#8217;t tell us anything more revolutionary than the fact that incentives matters.</p>
<p>And ranting on about government driven or market driven development in this context is irrelevant. If markets works and gives market agents the proper incentives &#8211; fine! If governments are facing the proper incentives &#8211; then that is fine too!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl-Henrik</title>
		<link>http://aidwatchers.com/2009/02/the-un%e2%80%99s-66-year-old-virgin/comment-page-1/#comment-4544</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl-Henrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 22:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;what succeeds or fails on average&quot;-approach is, from my point of view, not appropriate in complex economic and political context, that is the context of most developing countries.. I&#039;m very surprised to see that that Easterly embraces that approach.
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